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12 minutes ago, Martin said:
Well how would you know if you are brainwashed if you are brainwashed
Very good statement, how could I know I'm not brainwashed? First I do consider Western countries are under Western propaganda. Then I do consider I'm under influence. Still, a few days before attacking Ukraine, Putin was still saying he had no intention to invade Ukraine...
49 minutes ago, Martin said:I made the argument cause I hate that there is one side and other side and no middle ground...
I'm not sure there's a middle side in all stories. What's for sure is the winner will get the pen to write the whole story.
57 minutes ago, Martin said:I am ginst superpowers like US Russia China and so on they have their own agenda and doesnt care about people
I'm living on planet Earth so I don't understand what you say as here, all powers, not just superpowers, behave the way you mention. Maybe in Neverwhere it's different, but here all countries have their own agenda.
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6 minutes ago, Godzilla said:
Democracy...a nice idea, if it existed.
Call it the way you want but almost Russian millionaires and billionaires enjoy living in Western countries while no Western millionaire or billionaire want to live in Russian. So whatever its name, our hell is much better than yours.
10 minutes ago, Godzilla said:How did Zelenskyy get elected with the help of kolomosky and why was Biden caught on tape telling a ukranian president in 2012 or 2014 that hell give him 1 billion dollars but only if he changes his supreme court head lawyer.
If you believe in this story it only means Russia was not able to gather 2 billions to get Ukraine. Then you mean Putin is stupid because at the end he lost several dozen of billions and over 50,000 soldiers to get only 17% of Ukraine.
If you attack and you loose, you're a double idiot. The whole world was amazed seeing Russian army worth so few. After 15 months of war, Ukraine is stronger than it ever was and could defeat Russia on the battlefield. The Great Russia beaten by worthless (the Ukrainians) and degenerates (the Westerners), if it happens I'll have to end my laughing crisis with champagne!
33 minutes ago, Godzilla said:Democracy is easily controllable.
Then Russia should try it.
34 minutes ago, Godzilla said:America as nothing more than a deliberately obscured authoritarian power that is so corrupt and controlled that calling it a democracy is pointless, even if there is so-called voting.
As I told you before, whatever you call it our shit is so much better than yours. Even right now, to post you use the American internet. I'm even sure you prefer our shit to yours, you're just to scared to end-up cleaning the snow in Siberia next winter to admit it.
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9 minutes ago, Godzilla said:
NATO has outlived its usefulness. All that remains is a power hungry empire without any justification other than self perpetuation.
You're right NATO's justification it's self perpetuation of its members. But until the attack of Ukraine, these members were thinking they don't need NATO for their perpetuation. It's the mistake of Putin: being that persuasive he could be a threat for European countries. The US took advantage of that, first they just wanted to weaken Russia and motivate Europeans to rearm themselves. Putin went so much beyond US objectives that I wonder sometime if he's not the highest ranked CIA double-agent.
34 minutes ago, Godzilla said:Now it appears that the US is on the side of authoritarianism
I don't think the US really changed since early colonization. The were religious extremist and even if not that religious anymore they still carry some form of extremism. Still, individual freedom is at a much higher level than in Russia.
36 minutes ago, Godzilla said:the western powers want to soowly drain any competition and potential supporters to russia or any other country that poses a threat to them and the established world order with US at the top
I agree with that point of view, but threatening and weakening European countries, Russia enforced the American design. No almost all European countries are convinced Russia wants to attack them, and Putin is the strongest promoter of this idea.
In the early 2000s many westerners (me included) were thinking Russia would enter the EU soon or later. We were far from being Russian-haters! But Russian politicians grew afraid of democracy, thinking they'll loose their advantages... and power. I think Putin gathered these politicians around him and developed some kind of neo-bolchevism.
What Putin did was not stupid, but getting older, obsessed by entering history books, he attacked Ukraine too early, with too much overconfidence, and not enough firepower. Given that he had too accept his mistake and sign one month after the beginning of the invasion a peace treaty with Zelezny. The Ukrainian president was agree with that, at that time. Russia then would officially get Crimea and eastern territories.
Now, it's a whole different story. Over 50,000 Russian soldiers died loosing more and more territories, destroying at the same time like never before the army. Ukrainian grew so strong they became an opposition force to Russia on its south western border. Worse, to sign a peace treaty Putin would have to change the constitution.
For sure, the episode to be released: "The Return of the Ukrainians" will decide the nature of the "upcoming episodes"...
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4 hours ago, Godzilla said:
anything I say to you you respond with whataboutism "but Putin"
I just mean, I'm taking the very official Russian point of view, no gossips from unknown, unimportant people.
8 hours ago, Godzilla said:do you understand that there are two sides at war here, the US and Russia
I do. But does Russia understands it? We're part of a block (NATO), a block that was collapsing because most of its members thought war is a concept that's over between industrialized developed countries. That Russia took Crimea wasn't a problem for NATO, but not that way, not with soldiers. And Putin went further, the mistake of Putin is that he embodies an archetype: the powerful imperialist dictator. Putin revived the concept of Nazi danger. First he thought westerners will be scared by this image. He was someway wrong, it's where Zelensky got a better understanding of that stereotype. Bucha was partly a validation of this stereotype. Be careful, I'm not saying Putin is Hitler, I'm saying he embodies the stereotype.
The consequence is that western Europe is moving away from Russia. Not only Putin revived NATO but he made it larger as Finland entered it officially (and Sweden is on the way). Putin also created a proud and national unity feeling among Ukrainians. He wanted to prevent Ukraine from entering NATO (what most NATO members agreed to), and made Ukraine the fastest country to enter it. For sure you'll say Ukraine is not yet in NATO, but you're wrong. NATO is a standard of interoperability for military forces. What can we observe in Ukraine? They train with all kind of material from all the countries, and they learn to combine these material, working with NATO countries on operational objectives. It's exactly what Ukraine does everyday. So, even if it's not official, Ukraine is a member of NATO, maybe without all advantages but with all the requirements.
Who can believe Ukrainians will go back into Russia sphere of influence? It's lost. One by one every link is cut between Russia and the western world. It's not complete yet, but the dynamic is there. Putin consider he doesn't care, he'll go with China. But what has Russia to offer to China? Without Russia, China remains the second most powerful country in the world. What is Russia without China? A wasteland full of resources but without any client. So, which alliance can really expect Russia? None, Russia is becoming a dominion of China. Worse, some asian countries who were on Russian influence (like Kazakhstan) asked China to protect them in the future. So no doubt in the upcoming decades this "alliance" between Putin and Xi will be remembered as the Kiss of Death.
You speak about naiveness, but who can naively thing Chinese forgot their capital was sacked not only by western countries, but also by Russia? Who ignores the growing number of Chinese in Siberia?
We'll see what Ukrainian counter-offensive will get as result. If Ukraine manages to reconquer part of the territories still lost, it'll be the becoming of the end for Russia. As Putin and Loukachenko are not immortal, Russia will "officially" absorb Bielorussia; because if they don't the country will turn toward west. This will be the last brick on the wall separating Russia from West. So, what? Then China will consume Russia, maybe trading (by the of the 2040s) the full territory of Ukraine and Belarus, against Taiwan.
As you can see, I understand there are two sides, in fact, even more than two sides.
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I expect some new ones, as colorful and memorable mercs.
From AIM, my favorite was always Shadow.
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Why not, but then it should focus on what's still possible to change or fix. If the game is supposed to be released by summer I'm afraid they've only time to fix major bugs.
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5 hours ago, Godzilla said:
You expect the politicization of media to go one way...what happens when it doesn't?
Western media industry can survive without Russia, what about the opposite? Jagged Alliance didn't need Russia to be invented and to exist. How many Russian video games are references? And it's the same for all industries. What do Russia export except misery?
5 hours ago, Godzilla said:Go watch some more videos on tik tok about how "some daughters father was arrested" so you never have to ask why Zelenskyy dissolved parliament on his first day as president or if Ukraine isnt a textbook example of a proxy war.
I don't watch TikTok, but look around you, look inside you. Which freedom do you have in Russia? People can't even use the words "war in Ukraine" without risking a fine. It's not TikTok telling people which words they've the right to use.
About Zelenskyy dissolving the parliament, I don't know Ukrainian constitution but in many democratic countries the president has the right to do so.
Concerning proxy war, I observe Russia has problem with most of its neighbors. Not a single European country who was part of the Warsaw Pact wants to be under Russian influence anymore.
6 hours ago, Godzilla said:You are emotional and controlled by propaganda designed to make you emotionsl.
I'm not taking my informations from Vladimir Solovev nor Margarita Simonian, they have dangerous speech but I don't personally consider them official. I'm rather listening to Vladimir Putin, Vyacheslav Volodin, Dmitry Medvedev, Piotr Tolstoi; so only official voices from Russia... If you want emotional influenced propaganda go check for the Twitter wall of former Russian prime minister and president Dmitry Medvedev, in most developed countries the guy would be in psychiatric hospital. He's offering to nuke western countries every two days or so. I'm saying what people say he said, I'm speaking about what he's directly writing on his personal Twitter account. Go and check! From my point of view the guy needs help and can't assume being now a wireless puppet.
6 hours ago, Godzilla said:This has nothing to do with ukraine or ukranians. Ukraine is just another territory in a fight for influence between the US and anybody who threatens them. American Imperialism is a term go look it up.
Listen to Vladimir Putin's speech and you'll hear imperialism, listen to him explaining Ukraine doesn't exist...
And considering "American Imperialism", without it Jagged Alliance would never exist. Gaming industry, concept art, digital media, modern music, action movies... they are ALL emanations from "American Imperialism". What Soviet world had to offer to the world was shit, and even now with some oil and gold cover over it, it's still shit. And it's why Russia will loose, because its imperialism tastes shit.
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1 hour ago, LoboNocturno said:
Dont make me count the disgusting acts of the Western World, cause its countless. Better to leave the topic where it is alright.
Mariupol is completely destroyed, Russian army targets civilians more than militaries. All countries who were under the Russian sphere of influence have very bad feeling about them. It's easy to say Western world was worse without any argue.
4 hours ago, Godzilla said:Youre focused on how the war is conducted not why its conducted.
It's just a territorial annexion, Russia stole Crimea, then wanted to take all Ukraine to control Black Sea.
4 hours ago, Godzilla said:And again, Ukraine has violated just as many rights as Russia had if not more.
Ukraine wasn't invading any country. Russia invaded Ukraine over 3 major axes, they to take control of a whole country. Chechenya, Georgia, Bulgaria and then Ukraine. Russia negates people's right, the proof you can't even say Russia is at war without risking being fined or worse.
4 hours ago, Godzilla said:Why is it easier to be anti Putin in Russia than it is to be anti Zelensky pro Russia or anti Ukraine in Ukraine?
You heard about that young girl who was making a drawing against the war? Her father ended up being arrested... for a his child daughter's drawing!
4 hours ago, Osti Pes said:Уважаемый Image Miroir Вы пришли поговорить о политике??? Тогда вы ошиблись форумом)) Здесь про игру обсуждают.
Osti you should ask yourself why video games were invented in the western world and not Russia. Had Soviet Union not collapse and you would never ever had heard about Jagged Alliance. Video games, movies, internet, series, modern music, you would have nothing if Soviet Union was still existing.
So, you see @Osti Pes politics is not dissociated from Jagged Alliance, because politics is to define the society you want, the rights you want. Entertainment is part of it. Replacing Russian flag by Ukrainian flag is defending a society model were you decide for yourself. That decision could be playing Jagged Alliance, or whatever. There's no insignificant opposition.
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6 hours ago, LoboNocturno said:
Very simple answer : Capital NO!
Then you chose your side.
6 hours ago, LoboNocturno said:You better dont make Ivan angry. 😉
Should we be that afraid of a paper tiger?
6 hours ago, LoboNocturno said:The Western World showing and making too much propaganda like Russians are the bad guys, am totally against it, like the Western World are the angels which in reality they are the biggest war criminals since years.
Bombing Kiev is not propaganda, it's an act of war. Bucha is not propaganda, it's a war crime. That we can discuss this is the proof the West is in the best side, as I can speak freely. If you're living in Russia you can't even say half I wrote. If for you it's not a problem, it means you already surrendered and submit.
In a discussion Gorbatchev said once to a diplomat Russians are submissive and he you tell them tomorrow you'll have to come back to hanged, the only question they'll ask you is if they have to bring the rope...
Is it the model you want for yourself?
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5 minutes ago, Godzilla said:
And act like we have to target and attack ALL russians?
Brother man, you're super close to unironic racism.Up to now I believed Eliott was a creation from JA2 and not a real person. I'm so happy to meet you Eliott...
Don't worry, I'm not Deidranna...
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You're right @Xeth Nyrrow, I admit having "comments that are bizarre or irrelevant", but I've an excuse... I took the red pill.
I think moderators should erase this thread, I don't want anyone to sleep badly or worse... to wake up.
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1 minute ago, Xeth Nyrrow said:
Sir, this is a Wendy's...
And what is a "Wendy's"?
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@Solaris_Wave Russia did officially recognized the border and legitimate existence of Ukraine. Even considering Crimea there was never an official claim from Russia, never!
It's partly because of that reaction I consider it's not useless. At once people like Lunokhod will start asking themselves "Why?"
At first, the answer will be: "Because we're better than us and they're jealous!" but after several years seeing the flag nowhere they'll ask themselves another question: "What we did to deserve that?" Then the process will start. There's no useless opposition, the other alternative is collaboration. What's naive is to believe it's possible to be neutral in front of evil deeds.
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4 minutes ago, Solaris_Wave said:
You will find some hate the American flag, some will hate the British flag and some will hate the French flag. That is only a few.
The president of Russia is not a few. The vice-president of Duma is not a few. The former president of Russia is not a few. These people are representing their country, that you like it or not they're the legitimate elected (or formerly elected) leaders of the country. And what Russians say about it? "It's not my business".
In front of that I'm just speaking about removing the flag of people officially insulting and threatening us, and you consider I'm excessive. The guys speak about eradicating your family, I'm speaking about considering removing the Russian flag in a video game where it has no absolute justification... and you blame me.
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1 minute ago, Lunokhod said:
No, its not a different people and different nations.
You're wrong Lunokhod, they are different people and nations. When you reach the point killing each other like that (in a high intensity war) you're no longer the same people.
4 minutes ago, Lunokhod said:If u ask me(im russian), i dont care about Ukraine, its not my bussines.
It's the problem of Russia, nobody cares until it's falling on their heads. Why not? But why should we care about you if you don't even care about yourself?
7 minutes ago, Lunokhod said:I dont care about flags in this game
So, you're testifying this flag doesn't represent you.
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2 minutes ago, Stuurminator said:
No, but what you're doing is erasure. You're telling Russian players that their existence and the existence of their nation should no longer be acknowledged.
Stuurminator, you should agree that the existence of Russia and Russians is no way related to Jagged Alliance. If it was the case it'd mean 80% of countries should not be acknowledged.
7 minutes ago, Stuurminator said:First of all, what you're suggesting does nothing for the Ukrainian civilians. It's not going to influence anyone to take a stand against the war and it's sure as hell not going to prevent any death or damage. It's an empty gesture you can take to feel like you're helping without actually making a difference.
I don't think it's useless. When you see "everyone", everywhere reacting you start asking yourself questions. So far Russia is not asking itself that many questions.
11 minutes ago, Stuurminator said:you can't possibly be so naive as to think no other flag in JA3 is tainted with war crimes
I don't see that many flags with that much taint. I don't see that many countries whose elected prime delegates are threatening us with nuclear bombs, considering we are degenerates. If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.
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5 minutes ago, Solaris_Wave said:
Russia wouldn't be the first. China has been the subject of profits, censorship and other things when it comes to games. Other countries have protested also.
There is no censorship here, I'm not asking to forbid anyone from playing, not at all. I'm saying there's no obligation of a Russian flag in a game taking place in western Africa. Especially when that flag is tainted. Considering the Chinese flag, if you do consider it's the same, it's possible to act the same.
8 minutes ago, Lunokhod said:I already replied to similar post in another thread. U make a fool of yourself. Its videogame. Nobody cares about politics.
Politics is not what you care about, it's what you live in. Entertainment is a freedom we conquered, why should we accept to honor a dishonorable flag?
12 minutes ago, DougS2K said:I get the sentiment and fuck Russia for what it's doing in Ukraine, however I don't think we need the politics of this in a video game.
I'm not even as violent as your (rightful) feeling. I'm not asking to give or promote a bad image about Russia, just to say they went too far for what's just a game.
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7 minutes ago, Inquerion said:
you would annoy many potential Russian customers which are significant part of Jagged Alliance community.
7 minutes ago, Solaris_Wave said:That might create a lot of anger. Some Russians really don't like to see the Ukrainian flag
For sure it wasn't to please Russians, just to underline we know what they do, and don't support it. It's up to them what they decide with their country.
10 minutes ago, Inquerion said:This is entertainment industry after all. We all want to escape grim reality and just enjoy the game.
6 minutes ago, Wigen said:Let's not mix computer games with politics, let alone war.
Does it mean we should ask victims not to scream too loudly, not to disturb us from playing video games? Should we just consider bombs not falling on us do not concern us?
11 minutes ago, Stuurminator said:Also, if you're angry at Russia's political decisions, I think you should reserve your anger for its political leaders, not its entire populace. What you're proposing is a symbolic attack on the latter, not the former.
I was never implying to forbid Russian from enjoying Jagged Alliance. Just removing the flag. I'm waiting to see the game, but I'm for a game taking place in western Africa, many of these countries will not have their flag in the game. Someway it means you consider, not including Russian flag in the game is more unfair than bombing civilian populations...
It's funny to see supporting freedom is only good within video games, "outside... you understand... it's complicated."
But I understand I'm going too far, after all I'm implying a flag tainted with war crimes can't stand with others.
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If it takes place in Africa, maybe we could have a significant number of African mercenaries?...
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3 minutes ago, Godzilla said:
Feels like Im talking to zombies, no offense.
Youll hate it even as you pretend to love it, sorry to say.
No, no zombie, we just disagree.
I won't hate it, I played like that for more than a decade (experienced X-Com too) and still love Jagged Alliance for what it is.
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Considering the Russian agression of Ukraine, should Russian nationality be replaced by Ukrainian nationality. It doesn't require much change: one flag and a few lines of background.
It's very symbolic but many things start to change with a symbol.
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You're right @Wigen, there's no need of CtH. After a few hours you'll intuitively decide if you take the risk to shoot or not.
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5 minutes ago, Godzilla said:
I think the developers are in a difficult position. And if they continue down this path Im afraid that theyll just get more bad results when JA finally comes out.
I think developers follow the right path, at the end they'll get the positive feed back of people who'l discover a different way to play and to have fun.
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1 minute ago, Godzilla said:
Even if people think they havent made a mistake they can still admit that a big part of the community and I dont just mean these forums owned by THQ are in disarray and are unhappy.
What community? A few hundreds of no-life?
In this forum you have maybe 5 people speaking about CtH, and most of them have in mind X-Com. X-Com is a good game, but a different game; Jagged Alliance offers a different flavor, and therefore developers are right not to include CtH.
Your mistake is not to ask for CtH, your mistake is not to understand the original and specific flavor of Jagged Alliance. Therefore, if you like JA: enjoy; and if you don't, have fun with your games and stop blaming those who appreciate what you can't.
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Should Russian flag of mercs get replaced with Ukrainian flag?
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Yes I did, but I disagree with you. People can protest and oppose their government and leaders in all western countries. In Russia, just saying "Russia invaded Ukraine and run their a dirty war" can make you being judged... and sentenced.
Look at Russian history, between the creation of the country until now, there was barely 10 years of democracy (between 1991 and 2001). Putin-Medvedev, then Medvedev-Putin, then Putin again... it's a comedy.
Russian people just don't understand nor believe freedom exists. They live with chains and imagine everyone does.