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Wich dropped JA1/JA:DG merc would you like to see return to JA3?


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Many of the mercs in JA1 and JA:DG never made it into JA2, wich one would you like to see return in JA3?

I was personally sad that Snake was killed of. So if I got to pick the return of 1 merc it would probably be Kelly, although Boss is a strong contender as well.

Do you have a favourite you would like to see return in JA3?

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I always liked Major Spike Scallion. I took the habit of occasionally using "boy?" after questions and such, on the internet ^^ I find it hilarious that he would use that term to the player, indicating that he is older and "above" the player in some way, calling them "boy", even if he is serving under the player ^^ And he reminded me of a masoner that lived in my town, he looked literally exactly like him, the voice was very similar too. Which leads me to believe that they took most or all of the characters from real life. I looked through some pictures from a kind of party in my old town about a month ago, and one guy there that i didn't know, looked 99% like Fred Morrison in Drassen mine in JA2 ^^ It was freaky.

The JA2 alumni says: ""The departure of Spike Scallion from A.I.M. was a major loss to the organization. His demeanour and unwavering command of any situation always served as a comfort for those who found themselves neck deep in it alongside him. Major Scallion was offered a lucrative long-term contract serving as a military consultant for the North Koreans and no amount of negotiation could convince him to stay." - Jagged Alliance 2 Alumni gallery

There is nothing to say he cannot return for service, maybe older and more experienced, perhaps with lesser physical stats, sort of like Gus.

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Without a doubt Hector Alvarez, he was my favourite merc in JA1.

Am from Ecuador but it still made me very proud to see a merc from a neighbouring country, he was also the only South American merc in the game.

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Now that we know the identity of almost all mercs in JA3 (see below), thought it would be interesting to return to this topic, and maybe even talk about the dropped JA2 mercs. For the record, I'm pretty sure most won't return, but maybe if the sales are good and the developers decide to make some DLCs, those could be nice options.

As for JA1 and DG characters (who were not in JA2), there aren't many who could/would return (e.g. Snake, who I'd like to return to be a thrifty merc commander's bro-version of Shadow, and see his interactions with the latter, unfortunately, was killed off; the aforementioned Hector, who was also a decent merc, was severely injured and is permanently disabled etc.), and among those that could, even fewer I'd like to return. I'd like to see Kelly, Spike, and Boss return - but I don't think that's very likely, and of the three, Kelly being the likeliest to return. I'd also like Vinny to return, but that's very unlikely, since he's in jail.
A few more that I could see returning (but doubt they would, and don't really care too much) are: Doc, Leech, Screw, and Rusty. Of these four the first two would make most sense - Doc could be on a humanitarian mission in Grand Chien, while Leech could be shooting animals (maybe as a poacher?).

Now, although that's a bit off-topic (but figured it wasn't worth opening a new topic) there are many more potential mercs that were dropped between JA2 and JA3, of these, I'd like to see the following return:
From AIM:
Lynx, Static, Cliff (seems unlikely, though I liked his character and versatility), Malice, Spider, Bull (would almost always get him, both for the San Mona fight, and as one of the best mules at the game, who could also fight pretty well, while being dirt-cheap).

From MERC:
Haywire, Razor, Numb, Gaston (would be particularly interesting considering the background of French colonialism), Stogie (the latter two from UB)

RPCs (that I could reasonably see becoming mercs and leaving Arulco, so not most of the rebels):
Hamous (because of course - someone must spot and shoot all the dogs, as he did in JA2), Iggy, Ira (could go there on a humanitarian mission as well, as she did to Arulco, could also be combined with Doc)

And just for everyone's reference, we know of 37 of the 40 mercs in the game:
Returning (32 in AIM):
Barry
Blood
Buns
Dr. Q
Fidel
Fox
Grizzly
Grunty
Gus
Hitman
Ice
Igor
Ivan
Len
MD
Magic
Meltdown
Mouse (from Deadly Games)
Nails
Raider
Raven
Reaper
Red
Scope
Scully
Shadow
Sidney
Steroid
Tex (JA1, DG, and JA2: UB)
Thor
Vicki
Wolf
 
New (4 in AIM, 1 not there):
Fauda
Kalyna
Livewire
Omryn
Smiley (not in AIM)
 
Plus, there are at least two unconfirmed ones:
Bald African guy
Biff (unclear whether he is playable)

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There's another returning face from MERC, showed up in the one odd stream that actually made it past the intro island to the mainland.  Like Biff, no idea if he's playable but looks to have a quest meant to help him... clean himself up.  

Regarding newbs, that same stream also showed off another potentially recruitable early-game RPC.

Got a feeling Static, Buzz and Lynx will make a comeback at some point; as series regulars since JA1 I think they're shoe-ins.  Apart from them, only one I'm really missing is Stephen; need more high LDR mercs on the roster.

I'm willing to bet money on there being a MERC expansion post-launch, and if that's the case then I want it to have the original 10, plus Gaston and Stogie.  I also think they'd put Maddog in there too, he's a fan favorite and talks about wanting to join the mercenary business as part of his endgame speech.  Though honestly I think MERC would be better served with the addition of some new faces than AIM.

Frederick would be nice to have back, too. 

 

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57 minutes ago, Flowable said:

Two of my favourites are Jack 'Postie' Durham and Herman 'Turtle' Regents. I kinda wonder what the reasoning was for putting Mouse on the roster.

I liked Turtle as well (mostly because he was a fairly cheap decent shot - as long as you didn't need him running around the map too much) - but I think that's completely unlikely. As for Mouse, I was also surprised, but I think that she was a fairly good candidate for a few reasons: first, she has decent stats (with her great agility and dexterity stats she could be a good stealth character that is also affordable) - unlike many of the other mercs from JA1 and DG that were dropped. Second, having appeared in DG only (which, I think, fewer people played, compared to JA1 and JA2), it's easier to tell a new story with her, without her having too much baggage (like those that appeared in all games) - so you gain both nostalgia value, and the feeling of a fresh character. Finally, I think that at least to some extent, it is also a question of representation - you get a woman and (quite likely) a LGBTQ character in one.

 

1 hour ago, Luthghasgo said:

There's another returning face from MERC, showed up in the one odd stream that actually made it past the intro island to the mainland.  Like Biff, no idea if he's playable but looks to have a quest meant to help him... clean himself up.  

Regarding newbs, that same stream also showed off another potentially recruitable early-game RPC.

Got a feeling Static, Buzz and Lynx will make a comeback at some point; as series regulars since JA1 I think they're shoe-ins.  Apart from them, only one I'm really missing is Stephen; need more high LDR mercs on the roster.

I'm willing to bet money on there being a MERC expansion post-launch, and if that's the case then I want it to have the original 10, plus Gaston and Stogie.  I also think they'd put Maddog in there too, he's a fan favorite and talks about wanting to join the mercenary business as part of his endgame speech.  Though honestly I think MERC would be better served with the addition of some new faces than AIM.

Frederick would be nice to have back, too. 

 

You're right, thanks for the information, I didn't watch beyond the first two sectors, so as not to spoil too much. Good to see that this great scion of the illustrious Roachburn family is still alive. Agree about Frederick - he was solid, would certainly like to have another chance at playing him, but I've got a feeling that it's not very likely (he's old). Maddog would certainly be a nice addition to MERC, would fit right in. I do hope they will bring back Static. The absence of both Lynx and Buzz is suspicious - worst case scenario, they're both dead, but in the last stream the developers mentioned there being a separated couple and that (at least) one is hirable, but will leave if the (ex)partner gets killed - though I can't imagine that it refers to those two, considering how they hated each other in JA2 (then again, who knows? They liked each other in DG).

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1 hour ago, snowburn said:

And Raffi, maybe now his medical skills rivals House MD.

Raffi? Naah... his Cajun Funk band Rotis and Haggis made it big time! Wonder if we get to hear their greatest hit in the game "Bajun Bayous"? 😂

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7 hours ago, Hongweibing said:

You're right, thanks for the information, I didn't watch beyond the first two sectors, so as not to spoil too much. Good to see that this great scion of the illustrious Roachburn family is still alive. Agree about Frederick - he was solid, would certainly like to have another chance at playing him, but I've got a feeling that it's not very likely (he's old). Maddog would certainly be a nice addition to MERC, would fit right in. I do hope they will bring back Static. The absence of both Lynx and Buzz is suspicious - worst case scenario, they're both dead, but in the last stream the developers mentioned there being a separated couple and that (at least) one is hirable, but will leave if the (ex)partner gets killed - though I can't imagine that it refers to those two, considering how they hated each other in JA2 (then again, who knows? They liked each other in DG).

I admit I do prefer Frederick's 1.13 incarnation compared to UB; where he he filled a good niche on the MERC roster as a decent LDR experience amplifier for rookie mercs.  Part of the reason I'm hoping Stephen comes back because he filled a similar role; and felt like a natural fit for the African setting given his history in South African diamond security.  

Not to breach the spoiler pact but I think I have a good idea who the lovestruck merc is, and I don't think it's either Lynx or Buzz.  Can't help but feel their consummation would be a bit more explosive if that ended up being the case.

I do worry that the amount of investment that goes into making a single merc with todays standards (design, model, animation, voice) would ultimately lead to fewer being made overall, and I feel that's going to be most felt when it comes to the MERC roster.  Part of me fears that weaker, bordering-on useless mercs like Biff, Flo or even Haywire would get the axe in favor of ensuring those added actually have a good chance of being used by anyone.  Though I guess on the other hand that means the best of the best from JA1 like Spike or Kelly are strong candidates for addition, but still, a balance could be made.

 

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